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24 male. I am on day 21 of no nicotine/vaping i guess you can say. On day 19, i had cravings and caved in for a zero nicotine vape. After a day of hitting it, i passed it on to my mother who is on her own journey of trying to quit vaping but has not 100% "locked in" on her path yet. .

  • she also just suffered from an anxiety attack and mini heart palpatations too from this brand https://share.google/B44kvDJZQbcCImbDc . So she is now on zero nicotine vapes and the FUM device.

On day 19 i began to ask myself am i trying to stop nicotine, or vaping. It became evident it is nicotine itself i want to get away from. Or is this ridiculous clarification i am trying to make all because i got a zero nicotine vape? who cares i gave it away now.

I dont know if anyone else can relate, but on this adventure of trying to quit... you are not just trying to tackle the cravings and nic, you are battling your fears, anxiety, and other addictions. This sucks family, i pray god can get me through this and you too... seriously.

It is of course evident that disposable vapes hijack all your dopamine, this issue on top of my ADHD has also effected my recent struggle and battle with lust and nof*p which i was in full control of last year. I am trying to take back control of this and my discipline , but i am beginning to question if i am trying to control too many things and especially at once. Or is this my own doubt just talking?

i also work in a smoke shop, and practically manage it. Besides my recent 0% vape purchase, and the 2 tobacco blunts a coworker used to roll up and smoke with over a week ago, my progress is coming along fine. I am not worried about where i work.

This crap is 100% about taking back control of your mind, discipline, and sanity....

Maybe a week ago i was distressing clothes in my closet, custom stuff messing around. Began to get motivation again for my editing page. Up and down up and down up and down. My mind is now set back on focusing on stress, lust, complaining... this is annoying.

Here is the funny part. I quit for two weeks back in September... My journey WAS NOT terrible like this. Matter of fact it was amazing. I was being friendly with customers at work, making jokes, tapped back into some childhood shows, nostalgia. I than decided to go on a week vacation and my girlfriend needed a new vape. I chose to join her on ripping the new vape thinking i was capable of putting it back down and that i was in full control. Boy was i wrong. here i am, IN DECEMBER locking back in. But this time, i feel very low vibrational. I seem to have tunnel vision filled with impatience, lack of drive. My first break from vaping i would sit in the back of my job listening to motivational videos and tips on side hustles and much more spiritual things. Now it is hard to describe what i am experiencing, a sense of loss in my purpose. I SEE my goals and my progress, but i feel like crap. I am not "here".

(my gf is also trying to slow down and quit, i do not want you guys making this post about her effecting me. i actually somehow completely zero her out whenever she vapes around me i never paid it mind oddly idk)

Everything at home is going fine including holidays. My relationship is fine. Money coming in, i am fine. Gas in the tank, i am good. I live 4 minutes from work, FINE.

Why am i sabotaging myself with Lust, self-doubt? I can not even find a game to get addicted to... im practically begging a gaming company to get me addicted and hi-jack my wallet but i cannot play anything longer than 5-10 minutes without thinking "alright what else is there..."

Is there someone capable of straight up just telling me i need to fast and cleanse now? Because i think this goes deeper than i think. something is not right.

Am i trying to do too much at once(?) :

-no Msaturbaing / nofp

-quit vaping

**-Working almost 5-7 days a week upsales + with maybe one or two days off it depends each month. (**i like the hustle but need to find balance)

-saving money

if you read this thank you and god bless and good luck on your journey.

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Good job. I feel like the saving money and quitting vaping and addictive habits go together. I hear seeking some adrenaline is handy. Basically the mind wants some variance in it's chemistry. But the softer way to provide that is just with experiences. Your mind craves highs and lows so you have to give it that in a healthier way.

So the natural drugs are adrenaline, dopamine, and serotonin. I'd research what types of activities boost those and then rotate which you are getting. Seek those before nicotine. If one doesn't do the trick try the other. So now you have three things you need to try before going to nicotine. You might get over the craving or learn to deal with it by the time you've tried all three. Then in the exact opposite direction there is improving your tolerance for boredom. I'm a fan of intermittent unplugging.

The last bit of advice I'll give is to look at problems deeper. I only say this because usually frustration is what people use as an excuse to make an exception. Everyone's life has problems and frustrations. So I assume yours does because you are human. What frustration really is is when we refuse to look at the whys because we are so focused on the problem and what to do that will be a quick fix, but then these quick fixes don't work, or at least don't work smoothly.

Problems exist in chains. For any problem, even a small one, you can follow it back anywhere from 1-5 layers deep. Toyota is big on doing 5 whys but that can be pretty deep to do for everything. But often taking it back just 1 layer or 2 is already reducing frustration. It takes longer to solve a problem but it ends up more permanent and a smoother experience. The problem is that nicotine trains the exact opposite behavior.

I don't think that will make it 100% easy but anything that will reduce frustration in your life will help. So the two ways to do that is what I already mentioned, taking time to think and work it out methodically and give yourself the time to do something properly and slowly. The second is also asking if it is important. If its going to lead to frustration and possibly get you to make an excuse is it really that important. It might be. Some things in life are. But then you approach it carefully instead of getting stressed out.

So it's really three things. Remove things that cause frustration if they aren't important. Do things that might cause frustration methodically and in a way that doesn't. Turn off the excuse that being frustrated means you do nicotine. If you can solve even one of those perfectly then you win. But if you do all three of them you win with absolute certainty. Then you just triple killed the problem.

That's my spit ball. Good luck man. You can do it. People have done it before and so can you. You absolutely can. Let us know how it goes.