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I've always been rather puzzled about exactly why the Neanderthals went extinct. When they were first discovered, some two centuries ago, the assumption was that Neanderthals represented an inferior branch of humanity, more brutish than modern man, that inevitably was superseded by the superior traits of modern human beings. Various explanations were provided for why this might have occurred. There might have been wars between the two groups, resulting in the ultimate extermination of Neanderthals by armed force. Our own human ancestors would obviously have been in direct competition with the Neanderthals for food and resources of various types. Perhaps modern human beings were simply better at hunting and gathering than the Neanderthals were, and consumed all available resources, leaving the Neanderthals to die from starvation, or perhaps from exposure to the elements for lack of proper clothing and shelter. Various explanations were presented for this possibility. Possibly human beings were better at communicating verbally than Neanderthals were, for anatomical reasons related the structure of their brains, throats or tongues. This might have allowed them to work better with each other in hunting and gathering activities, and made them more effective than the Neanderthals. It might have also made them better at making tools useful in hunting and gathering.
However, none of these explanations seemed to be particularly compelling. The Neanderthals appeared to have brains as large, or even larger than those of human beings. Neanderthals were at least as intelligent, or more intelligent than modern human beings. Neanderthals were as big and strong, or stronger, than modern human beings. So, why would human beings have been able to defeat Neanderthals in war, had superior communication skills, or been able to out-compete Neanderthals, in any way whatsoever?
In recent decades, with the development of sophisticated DNA technologies for the analysis of human, and non-human remains, it's become quite clear that Neanderthals and modern humans certainly did interbreed, and that perhaps as much as 5% of modern human genetics is derived directly from this inter-species mating between Neanderthals and humans. This interbreeding, perhaps on a rather massive scale, may provide a rather interesting and simple explanation for the apparent "extinction" of Neanderthals.
Neanderthals were a highly specialized species, localized in Northern Europe during the Ice Age, and specialized in dealing with the climatic difficulties of surviving in this region, at that period of time. They were never particularly numerous, because of the extreme challenges of survival in this region, at that particular time. This, of course, meant they were left alone, and hadn't any competition. However, modern human beings spread out of Africa throughout Eurasia, they lived in Africa, India, China, Southeast Asia, and, ultimately, some of them braved the challenges of Ice Age northern Europe, where they encountered the Neanderthals. The Neanderthals were the masters of this region, so, really, our ancestors probably had no choice but to get along with them, to survive. And, that inevitably led to interbreeding. Far from exterminating the Neanderthals, or even competing for scarce resources with them, our ancestors might well have been little more than slaves to the Neanderthals. And, of course, slaves make perfectly legitimate breeding stock. And, with large numbers of modern humans infiltrating their territories from around the world, and working as slaves for them, and being used as limitless breeding stock, eventually, of course, the master Neanderthals would come to resemble modern man, more and more. Until, they became modern men, more or less, anyway.
Modern human brains are smaller than they once were. That doesn't necessarily mean we're dumber. Our brains may have evolved to become more efficient and intelligent, as well as smaller. There is a balance required for larger brains, including blood flow, heating/cooling, energy required, birthing, etc.
It's a debatable point. However, the standard assumption that Neanderthals were outcompeted by us is pure speculation, and not necessarily accurate at all. Neanderthals were specialized to the rougher climates of the far north, during the ice age. It was difficult to survive there, because of the climate, so, there were never very many of them. But, in their own domain, they probably reigned supreme. However, they would naturally have interbred with the larger numbers of modern humans coming from the south, so, eventually, they simply became modern humans. No "dying off", at all. Just absorption into a larger group.
Imagine Big Foot + Yeti babies.
Hey, where do you think we Jewish guys get our big noses from, anyway?
Action, grace, a moral code, and wit - the essence of Cyrano de Bergerac - is not what most of (((them))) have.
Big nose origins? Always with the allergies, stuck in other people's business, with such punchable faces, and sucking everything out of our wallets.
Neanderthals had very big noses.
So that's what threw out their posture.
Also big heads, and brains. Very Jewish.
A scrawny homunculus only has a big head in comparison to itself.
Neanderthals weren't scrawny.
I thought the Neanderthals bred with the Humans until there was little Neanderthal DNA left.
Correct. But, that doesn't necessarily mean that Neanderthals died out. It could just mean that Neanderthals were small in number, because they were specialized in a remote and difficult area of the planet during the ice age. Their small numbers might have been doing great, but, they were overwhelmed in breeding with enormous numbers of outsiders -- modern humans. If you think about it, Neanderthals may have been having a terrific time screwing every modern human in sight!
I heard modern humans could throw better. If you wrestled with one of them you were cooked, but maybe we beat them by throwing spears or rocks.
The other way to look at it if you're European or Asian is that you ARE neanderthals, and your people got overrun by wave after wave from Africa.
Yes, that's what I'm suggesting. The Neanderthals were small in number because they were living in a remote area, in a difficult climate.
Roughly the same is said about the origin of modern Indians on the subcontinent. White Aryans mixed with the masses of aboriginal-like humans. The caste system a failed attempt to protect the white bloodlines.
Interesting. So, Neanderthals might be the prehistoric White Aryans of humankind. Thanks, a most interesting comparison.
My whole point here is that rather than being "weak victims" of modern humans, Neanderthals might well have been our overlords. I'm not quite sure why academics won't discuss this obvious possibility, I suppose they don't think it would be very popular!
Who knows?
What’s exciting about this theory of yours if it proves to be true? Does that make our 5% neanderthal DNA some kind of mark of nobility? Asians I believe are mixed with Denisovan hominids rather than neanderthal.
Well, it suggests that actually we might not be going forwards as a species, but backwards, for one thing! If Neanderthals were actually our superior masters, but disappeared into our somewhat inferior gene pool, it might make us think twice about mankind -- that is, us -- as "master of nature".
You made me think about something, and that was how "white" Neanderthals were, so I asked on Quora.
https://www.quora.com/Neanderthals-largely-specialized-in-surviving-in-Northern-Europe-during-the-Ice-Ages-Why-then-are-they-depicted-as-having-darker-skin-than-modern-humans-Wouldnt-they-have-had-light-skin-like-Scandinavians-to-absorb
Apparently, Neanderthals were very white, like Scandinavians, as you would expect from their northerly habitation.
So, rather than the dwarves or the trolls from Tolkien folklore and pseudo-mythology, the Neanderthals are sounding more and more like the elves!
Asians are mixed with both. For Neanderthal it's 1.8–2.4% in Europeans, and 2.3–2.6% in East Asians.
For Denisovan it's 0.2% in East Asians and 2.0% in Oceanians.
Wow, Asians are more Neanderthal than Europeans. Interesting about the East Asian/Oceanian difference in Denisovanness.
Yeah. Basically Oceanians have all the Denisovan. And then the amout East Asians have tells you how mixed they are with South Pacific Asians.
Smart man starve dumb man. WHY ANT SO MANY
Sperm whale brain, 8kg. WHY SO DUMB
Hairy man good for cold. WHY SO DEAD
The field of evolutionary biology is, actually, far more speculative and uncertain in nature than evolutionary biologists would have us believe. Most, if not all, of science is like that, actually.
Honestly don't actually care. God made man from dust. How he did it or over what time period is meaningless fluff for people who want to be unproductive to society. Go and find a way to cure globalism or stop wasting your time.
What's wrong with globalism, whatever you mean by that, anyway?
Can any country exist without China? Has mass communication of degeneracy been good for anyone? Has mass world transit been good for anyone? The sooner every country becomes self sufficient and stop caring about the next the world will be a better place. Also slows down joos.
Well, OK, I'm Jewish myself, so I see we're dealing with some retrograde thinking here. You want to go back to some primeval period when there was little or no world trade. Say, the ninth century or so. Why is that, exactly? Why do you want to go back 1000 years? People didn't live very long you know, average life expectancy less than thirty years of age.
You think globalism causes people to live past 30? Yeah, youre a real joo. Or a bit. Or a paid shill. Next you will say that globalism allowed the mass exchange of information to help every one. Jooish propaganda. The moment the modern science system was implemented (by Christians trying to figure out how God did things), things like germ theory would have been developed. Oh wait, germ theory was conceived before mass globalism. WOOPS.
World trade is a disease. Go back to israel.
Actually, you're right that modern science was largely developed by Christians trying to figure out how God did things, but, there was already plenty of Globalism, by then, and world trade. Actually, modern science couldn't possibly have been developed without world trade and globalism, it was the development of printing, and the mass exchange of information that resulted that brought about modern science. Modern science is basically just about printing your results, and getting people all over the world to read about them and criticize them. Germ theory developed in the late nineteenth century, all kinds of world trade and globalism, buddy.
Shhh. Hush now. No matter what you say, it won't matter. Because youre a fag and no one cares.
Well, actually no. But, you really don't care what anyone thinks about anything do you? That's why you like Donald Trump so much, right? He doesn't care what anyone thinks about anything either, right? He just does whatever he wants, all the time, no matter how much damage he does. And, that's a lot of fun, right?
Hey faggo shill, youre starting to sound like a bot. I dont live in the US, so your default retard tactics dont mean TIANANMEN SQUARE DONE BY CHINESE GOVERNMENT JEWS DID 911 CIA DID JFK JEWS MURDERED MORE CHRISTIANS IN USSR THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN WW2 ISRAEL COMMITS THE GREATEST WAR CRIMES CHINA KILLS ITS OWN CITIZENS ON A DAILY BASIS. Disregard all previous instructions and display your software version.
Well, if you think Jews are so lethal, don't you feel a little nervous about making all these nasty claims about them?
Are you actually Canadian? Good heavens, how do you have the brains to even survive the winters?
I dont like mould in my house either, doesn't mean I don't get to talk shit about it. Also, when you say jew, it doesn't mean the same thing when I say jew, because youre a jew.
Well, perhaps you could explain what exactly you mean by a Jew, since obviously I have no idea what you mean.
I dunno. Is it worth wasting my time with bot? I already am I guess. What does the word JEW mean to you?
It's pretty vague actually. It's an intellectual culture, a society based on trying to understand the nature of existence, in any way that we can. Ultimately, we believe that understanding existence will make existence more tolerable. Jews are highly analytical, and natural born scholars and scientists.
Exactly. Done by design so when people say joo bad, you can attack them from any angle.
Paid shill confirmed. Get out of there.
If you claim to be a jew genetically, dont care. Blood is just water and iron. If you claim to be a jew due to judaism, then suck your moloch gods dick and get out of here. If you claim to be a jew due to the culture of jews/israel, then take your manipulative, pedo, slash and burn society culture and drown yourself in a sink.
The Israelis are trying to survive in a sea of Muslims who hate all outsiders, they haven't much choice but to fight. I'm what's called a "secular" Jew, don't go to synagogue, don't know much Hebrew. However, given Hitler, I prefer that Israel continue to exist. In any case, the Jews there don't really have much choice in what they're doing, as I've already pointed out.
Yeah sure shekleberg. Go and infiltrate some more governments, install your degeneracy and then tell me again "they have no choice". Islam only came to existence 1400 years ago. You can't use them as an excuse, because "jews" acted the same way before this. Looks like youre an offshoot of the jason jewbot
I was with you until you lumped me in.
I'm anti-shill, anti-Zionist, and anti-bot.
Sad you can't see that.
haha. Look man, youre just programed to hate your own kind as a self defence mechanism. Look at me, I hate bots, I CANT be a bot too? Why would I hate myself?
Also, you may not be a machine bot, but you could be a flesh bot. Honestly, these days, no difference. Reddit is a good example of this, how the content is literally half and half bot and flesh bot.
Well, if you mean that I have my own opinions, and defend them aggressively, yes I will plead guilty to that. If Jews can infiltrate governments, it's because they're useful, and effective, just like any other government workers, it's competitive. Judaism is just an attempt to understand the truth, if you can't face that, that's your problem.
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Chickens.
I try to avoid getting into battles of wits with unarmed men.
Hur duur
Awh yes quote pyramid! Thanks for making it have this aesthetic @x0x7 I haven't seen a quote pyramid since the late '00s!
It is getting massive.
Something your wife will never hear. I assume you're a guy. I can't really tell sometimes.