Whoa, buddy those Finnish communists are really hard core, aren't they? Khruschev was a capitalist??? That's sure news to the Russians! It isn't Khruschev who's suspected of killing Stalin, it's Beria, he's the one who seized power first. Then, Khruschev was able to arrange a coup against Beria, because everyone figured Beria would kill them all, given what he did during the purges in the 1930's. Khruschev was removed by Brezhnev in 1964, not because Khruschev was a capitalist, but because Khruschev was mentally unstable, and had almost caused a third world war for nothing in 1962, over Cuba. Brezhnev actually liked Khruschev, but realized he was totally incompetent. And, the deification of Stalin, Lenin and Marx are something the Russians these days would just laugh at. Interesting, though.
Have you heard of Grover Furr? He's a researcher who's quite the radical Stalin revisionist/revivalist. According to him, Khrushchev's secret speech was all lies, and most of Stalin's alleged crimes are only sourced to Trotsky.
The Trotsky/Stalin debate rages on, and people are studying the consequences of anti-Stalinist Trotskyism in the west.
I haven't been using saidit for months, the security is so tight it's unusable. Interesting post. I agree with the point that the identity politics are a problem, and don't serve the interests of the people, at all. Hopefully the Democrats can get away from that nonsense.
Trotsky couldn't possibly have been responsible for the Stalinist purges, he was exiled in 1928. Impossible!
I don't think they're arguing Trotsky did that. I would imagine both Trotsky and Stalin would have had loyalists, and some of them would have been a problem to be dealt with, whoever took power. I guess the Stalin apologists argue that the number of deaths was inflated, and that at least some of the documented cases were legitimate cases of betrayal, collaboration etc.
Well, we really don't know how many people Stalin killed, that's quite true. Estimates literally range from one hundred thousand to one hundred million, that's three orders of magnitude! Most historians sort of take a median figure of 20 million or so, but, it's fairly arbitrary.
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Whoa, buddy those Finnish communists are really hard core, aren't they? Khruschev was a capitalist??? That's sure news to the Russians! It isn't Khruschev who's suspected of killing Stalin, it's Beria, he's the one who seized power first. Then, Khruschev was able to arrange a coup against Beria, because everyone figured Beria would kill them all, given what he did during the purges in the 1930's. Khruschev was removed by Brezhnev in 1964, not because Khruschev was a capitalist, but because Khruschev was mentally unstable, and had almost caused a third world war for nothing in 1962, over Cuba. Brezhnev actually liked Khruschev, but realized he was totally incompetent. And, the deification of Stalin, Lenin and Marx are something the Russians these days would just laugh at. Interesting, though.
Have you heard of Grover Furr? He's a researcher who's quite the radical Stalin revisionist/revivalist. According to him, Khrushchev's secret speech was all lies, and most of Stalin's alleged crimes are only sourced to Trotsky.
The Trotsky/Stalin debate rages on, and people are studying the consequences of anti-Stalinist Trotskyism in the west.
Did you see this when I posted this on saidit?
https://old.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/l3okp9/identity_politics_as_counterintelligence_operation/
I haven't been using saidit for months, the security is so tight it's unusable. Interesting post. I agree with the point that the identity politics are a problem, and don't serve the interests of the people, at all. Hopefully the Democrats can get away from that nonsense.
Trotsky couldn't possibly have been responsible for the Stalinist purges, he was exiled in 1928. Impossible!
I don't think they're arguing Trotsky did that. I would imagine both Trotsky and Stalin would have had loyalists, and some of them would have been a problem to be dealt with, whoever took power. I guess the Stalin apologists argue that the number of deaths was inflated, and that at least some of the documented cases were legitimate cases of betrayal, collaboration etc.
Well, we really don't know how many people Stalin killed, that's quite true. Estimates literally range from one hundred thousand to one hundred million, that's three orders of magnitude! Most historians sort of take a median figure of 20 million or so, but, it's fairly arbitrary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVWun9jfSac
The interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niEp25WIHgM