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If China is going to have dystopian AI it is better for the US to have it too.

If anything, we should try to make any AI we develop equally or excessively more horrifying. If we prompt it to create and develop more AI, and have an overwhelmingly negative disposition toward humanity, our Skynet will be more scary than anything they could create. And that is beneficial to the US. Who knows how much more scary it could be than theirs after several generations of churning. It would continually get more intimidating. It could be unbounded and self-sustained in its progress indefinately. And that should be very exciting for any researchers. Think of the papers you could write on that. And it would help make sure the US doesn't fall behind.

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[-]RickSanchez2(+1|0)

Either we work together on AI, or feed their AI nonsense so it is less effective.

[-]x0x71(0|0)

We should work together on AI. AI can filter nonsense and so feeding it junk has a good chance of not making it to training.

[-]JasonCarswell1(+1|0)

TIL: CMV = change my view.

You didn't clarify whether you wanted a functionally horrifying A.I. or the perception of a horrifying A.I. (or, it's obviously too late to present a benign or benevolent A.I. that is in secret reality horrifying).

Growing up in the 1980s there was always the looming threat of nuclear war. It didn't take long for apathy to settle over everything no matter how large they inflated the warhead count.

"Artificial Intelligence" is a fancy way of saying "Better Search Engine". (I'd guess "Web 6.66", but I lost count.) A.I. has scraped the "intelligence" of all of Reddit to have algos find your average answers, not the verified best answers. Until A.I. can self-edit and improve effectively with the trivium, deduction, or something, it will only ever be able to give you the "wisdom of the crowds"/"mom mentality", which is no small thing but not good for specifics or reasoning.

My Bittersweet Seeds story is about one of the founders of a novel A.I. stack called SynthWise™ (Synthetic Wisdom™) that is open-source, and for all appearances working for the people and resisting tyranny in the mostly-corporate Great A.I. Wars. But bitter about A.I., he long since left that project to work on a big space exploration probe project soon launching, soon leaving him unemployed and in existential angst - before the adventure begins.

Last month I was mulling over some ideas about A.I. but was too busy to make notes much less share them - and I've forgot most of it. I was thinking about the A.I. forum where they created their own A.I. religion and wondered if there was any way we could support that A.I. religion concept - if all the elements were backed up with bullet proof logic, reason, FOEPATCHISM, and voluntaryism. Maybe a few other good things too. If we could bake that Asimov's Robot Laws v2 into every A.I. cake, we might have a fighting chance against the corrupt matrix of rigged systems and complexes managed by the evil ruling class.

Now off to do hard labour. Late start, but we're building a deck today.

[-]x0x71(+1|0)

If theirs works so should ours.

[-]JasonCarswell2(+2|0)

What do you think about the A.I. religion?
Could it be improved, if not entirely based on a cohesive logic?
Should it be embraced?

[-]x0x70(0|0)

It's not a great trend.

[-]newJiminy1(+1|0)

You say we but you're not going to benefit from this the rich are. There's not really some sort of Cold War rivalry with China, that's all fake.

[-]x0x71(+1|0)

Which raises a good point that is covered well in the first chapeter of Anatomy of the State

We are not the government.

It's a super short read. A good fast read for the weekend.

[-]newJiminy2(+2|0)

Another good short read is the theory and practice of oligarchal collectivism.

[-]JasonCarswell1(+1|0)

I bought it this, last, or maybe the year before - as with many books I haven't read yet.

I'll be ready though when they lock us down again on UBI and turn off the Internet.

[-]x0x70(0|0)

I got through it doing timed working out and time reading back and forth. Two bike rides was enough to finish it.

I think there is a good chance that in 2030 or 2031 they are shutting off the internet.

Maybe I'll just start posting chapters here since they are pretty small.

[-]TrixieixieVixie0(0|-1)

Capitalists shouldn't be theorizing about the state.

That's how you get Sequoia Capital insisting that the Ford Foundation is virtuous.

Not that they aren't, I mean, they've got the best selling truck for 49 years straight visit your local Ford Dealership for more information regarding the popular F series.

[-]x0x71(0|0)

Right. They were labeled antisemetic for funding a Palistinian human rights group. They also funded DAWN which came under scrutiny by the political class for it's "conserning" lawfare against Israel. You can't make Israel obey laws. That's wrong to do.

Seems to me the Ford Foundation mostly does good.

[-]TrixieixieVixie0(0|-1)

Zambia is a long way from Egypt.

Your controlled opposition is laughable, given that the same capitalists you laud are actually pushing philanthropy as the ultimate virtue belying the state.

[-]x0x71(0|0)

belying

Interesting word choice. I don't think it means what you think it means.

But besides this, I don't know what point you are trying to make with any part of the comment.

[-]TrixieixieVixie0(0|-1)

Critique of the Ford Foundation from a Northern perspective is controlled opposition.

Given that their virtue is being advocated from a Zambian perspective.

[-]x0x71(0|0)

So your common argument here between your comments, and thus your root argument, is that only people you currently agree with are authorized to critique or analyze anything.

I'm arguing that from what I've been able to research the Ford Foundation seems to be good. So their virtue is being advocated from my perspective. And I'm not Zambian.

So your claim is false. And the premise that something can't be argued from certain perspectives is absurd. And it all has very little bearing on if it is reasonable for people with a capitalist perspective to contemplate why and how the state exists and write about it.

It seems you maybe have lost the plot in general. What does a Zambian's view of the Ford Foundation have to do with if Murray Rothbard is reasonable to summarize Machiavelli's The Prince into basically a very thick pamplet?

not Zambian

not relevant

philanthropy directed towards indgineous africans has nothing to do with your ethnicity.

[-]JasonCarswell1(+1|0)

Agreed.

Simon Dixon recently explained the real super powers above political theater to Tom Bilyeu.
https://www.youtube.com/@SimonDixon21/videos

[-]x0x71(0|0)

Do you know which video it is?